V6 - height / springs problem

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V6 - height / springs problem

by pas » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:11 pm

I wanted to lower my calibra to -40mm, I did same thing (-40) with my old 8v calibra and it was perfect, but with v6 its only problems...
Firts I bought a set shocks and springs (supersport) in germany and front went too low- I had about 0,5 cm betwen tyre (195/45/16) and arch, i put back old springs ant it went back up I tought it was problem with spings that were not for v6 and that seller made a mistake and sent me springs for 2.0 calibras and now I got new set springs checked that they are for v6 and again it went too low - now I have about 1-1,5 cm to arch and it rubs when going over bumps - ofset is ok, car just goes down... back end is ok and was ok with first set also.
Can it be that shocks are also wrong? - I tought main thing for car height are springs and shocks dont have much influence...

Could please v6 owners that lowered their car tell me what shocks and spring they used and advice would changing shocks made any diference in my case?

Thanks
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by thegeth » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:20 pm

I have gmax kit lowered 40mm, i get rubbing on bumpy back roads if doin over 40 mph. I have a gap off about 2 fingers width between tyre and arch.
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by RobbieV » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:58 am

I too have had Gmax 40mm kits and never had any problems with them.
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by sinbrad » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:54 am

A while ago I had the same problem with springs. Bought a set for the V6 and the car went too low. Thought the springs were wrong and in the end they weren't. Too much hassle to sort out problem so just stuck with originals and got bigger wheels 17". The v6 is lower than standard anyway as is the turbo
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by pas » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:03 am

Well I have 3 springs sets now and not one has good height...
1st H&R (30/30)- too high (about 3-4 fingers above tyre)
2nd Supersport (50/45) - too low (0,5 cm above tyre)
3rd GT cupline (40/40)- almost ok but rubbing

3rd one is closer to -60mmm than -40 that it should be but I could live with that if only it wasn't so soft, over every bump it hits and rubs...

Its unbeliveable - or it stays too high or it drops all the way down, only not middle that I'm trying to achieve... going crazy here...

I have been looking on some german forums and some say that they got ok results with H&R springs (that I have) and short koni yellows (-50mm) so spring was forced to lower to height of shocks - they say when combined that car sits about 40-45 mm lower... but Im not very sure about that...

Also Koni are pretty expensive so I am thinking of returning H&R for now so I can drive normaly and instead of koni save a little more and get coilovers... it will cost more but atleast I will be sure that I will have height that I want...

Opinions - sugestions please?
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by thegeth » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:16 pm

Are the H&R springs new as they might settle down after while and it won't look to high.
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by pas » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:36 pm

No H&R are not new and they are holding car pretty high so I guess they didnt settle down - with tem I have 3-4 fingers betwen tyre and arch and I'm trying to get half of that height...
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by fraggie » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:06 pm

just thought id ask this to make sure but you are buying springs for the V6 and not just standard calibra springs? V6 springs need to be stiffer as the car is heavier, if you use normal springs they will sit lower as they aren't meant for that weight.

Probably a silly question but needed asking :)
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by pas » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:27 pm

Yes I did ask both times and it wrote in description that springs are for v6 and I did tought that they made mistake first time so I double checked when I way buying second set at diferent seller... dont belive both lied to me... and on other hand that is only logical explanation why car sits too low as v6 is about 150 kg heavier than 2.0 calibra...

In about half hour I am going back to garage and puting car back on H&R for now - it will be high but atleast I dont have to be scared that I'll dmage something every time I go for a drive...

Then I'll cool off my head for few days and try to decide what next...
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by trev150 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:04 pm

pas wrote:Also Koni are pretty expensive so I am thinking of returning H&R for now so I can drive normaly and instead of koni save a little more and get coilovers... it will cost more but atleast I will be sure that I will have height that I want...

Opinions - sugestions please?


Who make the coilovers and are the rears height adjustable?
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by pas » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:52 pm

There is several brands - go to ebay.de and search for - gewindefahrwerk calibra

And no, rear height is fixed, only front ones are adjustable...
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by sinbrad » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:50 pm

How long did you leave the H&R to settle as they need a bit of time to achieve their finished height. If you're putting them on and not letting them settle before taking measurements then maybe that's the problem?
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by pas » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:58 pm

H&R were few months on car so I guess they had more than enough time to settle... I ordered new set of springs and shocks - I hope 3rd time will be lucky...
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by sinbrad » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:50 pm

Oh well that's that idea out of the window. Hopefully 3rd time lucky as you say?
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by pas » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:39 am

Well this will be 4th diferent brand/set of springs and shocks so I'm hoping they can't all be wrong height... good thing is I can sell springs here for same price I paid for them or even for more. Only loss is paying mechanic to fit them and that doesent cost me much...
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