looks like vosa tests for cars going to change

[scouse1]

just seen this looks like its gonna effect a lot of people with modified cars.

http://wrecks2riches.co.uk/2010/10/2011-changes-to-mot/

Full details here
http://www.motester.co.uk/TradeMagazine ... anges.aspx

[Fraz]

that was going around about 2 years ago...same storey same checks

funny just been on VOSA site and nothing there about it

[GreyDJ]

Not sure about this at all. Looks like an Internet myth. In the second link to the MOTester site the article (a long read!), on 2010 changes, does not refer to it at all.

If it were true its a pity about the HIDs, they are the only way to get the Calibra's dipped beam anywhere near decent. Suppose it would become bulb change/MOT from then on.

As HIDs seem to be legal under the Construction and Use laws (they are under the max bulb power levels and can be adjusted to meet the anti-dazzle beam height rules), unless they change them it would mean HIDs will be legal to use on the road but would fail an MOT.

[tazz666]

im sure the H.I.D's will be alright as the calibra is projection lense's, I'm sure that the year of the cars manufacture ie2006 onwards if fitted with H.I.D's need the leveling and headlamp wash and cars before 2006 dont require ,i could be wrong on the dates but im sure that it is something like that

[Fraz]

done a bit of digging, and yes changes are to made to the MOT, though I think some people have added legs to some of them

as far as I can make out (and I read the EU directive) is the wish to change the frequencey of the MOT. and from what I read its going to mean no three years till first MOT if you buy a new car, vans public service vehicles will also change

wiring as in the routing of wires and security...and also the battery being insecure

new rules for tell tale warning lights, ...Electric power steering, traction control

as for HID's all I can see is the reference to headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility...but they seem not to know how to police that one YET

matters of testing issue 48

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M ... 202010.pdf

Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.

We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.

Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.


Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations. Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.

The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have ‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.
The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts. We’ll also be sure to keep you posted on developments through Matters of Testing.

[GreyDJ]

Great piece of detective work!

If that all happens it looks like we are heading for first MOT test @ 4 years old and then every other year. The MOT trade is howling about loss of jobs and safety standards on that one!

[v6 steve]

i think the mot should be 1 year for cars under 10 years then every 6months for cars that are over 10 years old, some cars only get the bonnet opened at mot time and 90% of people think that if there car passes then there car is safe to drive for a year, to pass a mot the car only has to meet the MINIMUM standard
At the end of the day i drive my kids in my car along side other cars that are on the road and would like to think the car pulling up at the junction will stop and not over shoot into my path, or the car along side wont loss its wheel. Not all car owners look after there cars like we do

[tazz666]

i think the mot should be 1 year for cars under 10 years then every 6months for cars that are over 10 years old, some cars only get the bonnet at mot time and 90% of people think that if there car passes then there car is safe to drive for a year, to pass a mot the car only has to meet the MINIMUM standard
At the end of the day i drive my kids in my car along side other cars that are on the road and would like to think the car pulling up at the junction will stop and not over shoot into my path, or the car along side wont loss its wheel. Not all car owners look after there cars like we do

here here steve as you say ,not everyone is as devoted to there cars like we all are

[Fraz]

only problem with that is you then have two fees to pay, and no doubt the fee will be a damn site more, so once again the government will fleece you for the privilege to drive on the road ...and no there is no decent alternative to using your car

[Robs-se]

only problem with that is you then have two fees to pay, and no doubt the fee will be a damn site more, so once again the government will fleece you for the privilege to drive on the road ...and no there is no decent alternative to using your car

What about our wonderful public transport systems (he says sarcastically). One way or the other its just a means of the desperate Government fleecing the motorist any way they can. Is it really for our saftey or their pockets, the more failures means more income from retests

[GreyDJ]

The main reason for doing it is very simple, Euro standardisation. One of the side effects of being in the EU.