New MOT rules updated.

[Fraz]

or fit headlight washers and a load level device .....how long till China comes out with them all in a HID kit

[v6 steve]

this is so stupid its funny, they say the reason is because the hid's can dazzel/blind on coming trafic now then i put my candle power light's back in the on coming traffic wont need to worry about me or my lights as ill be in the bush's trying to stop the blood pouring from head after missing the last bend that i couldn't see

[craigyboy]

Does this mean anyone with the angel eye
units will have to change them back to the
standard ones?

[v6 steve]

Does this mean anyone with the angel eye
units will have to change them back to the
standard ones?

it looks that way or just change the builds

[craigyboy]

I suppose its easy enough to change back to
standard lamps to get it through an mot

[v6 steve]

a mate of mine has just told me he got pulled by the police and got done for having hid's, wheel scrubbing on inner arch and his tail pipe sticking out to far not sure what the charge was but got 3 points and £60 fine

[IanW]

I was out in Mark1's area a few weeks ago in this -



When the car in front started slowing down (not too unheard of with that behind you) then it just stopped in the middle of the road, so we moved along side to ask what was the matter to be told that our headlights were too bright! (factory fit BMW HID's).

While i do understand the predicament that you guys face, having had a few calibra's in my past, but i have seen some of the dazzle that these kits do give out! You have to remember that other road users don't have the ability to move their rear view mirror into a night position for example.

Also don't forget that the some members of the police, can conduct a roadside MOT (basically) and if you were driving at night, with lights that didn't comply, could issue a prohibition notice on the car not to be driven on the road.

[IanW]

a mate of mine has just told me he got pulled by the police and got done for having hid's, wheel scrubbing on inner arch and his tail pipe sticking out to far not sure what the charge was but got 3 points and £60 fine

in England/Wales causing undue dazzle is a non endorsable fixed penalty, last time i issued a ticket for it so no points for it.

[v6 steve]

a mate of mine has just told me he got pulled by the police and got done for having hid's, wheel scrubbing on inner arch and his tail pipe sticking out to far not sure what the charge was but got 3 points and £60 fine

in England/Wales causing undue dazzle is a non endorsable fixed penalty, last time i issued a ticket for it so no points for it.

as i said Ian im not sure what the charge was but thats what he is saying he got done with

[GreyDJ]

Good points there Ian. One of the lost opportunities of the past 10 years was not feeding back the vast revenues from speed cameras into police traffic activities. The roads would be a lot safer now if they had.

But it does mean that you would have to be very unlucky or just stupid to be stopped by a traffic patrol car. You can travel 100s of miles without seeing one nowadays.

I use my HID lights, which are the later more powerful 50 watt bulbs, in semi-automatic levelling mode, using the height adjuster to lower the beam in town and in traffic and raise it on the open road. The cut-off passes the MOT anti dazzle beam height test when on the highest setting.

[v6 steve]

surely they should fail hids that dazzal and not all hids that dont self level, at the mo they can fail lights that are too high so i cant see why they cant do the same

Ian im not being checky but what trainning does a trafic cop get on car mot stuff?

[IanW]

Good points there Ian. One of the lost opportunities of the past 10 years was not feeding back the vast revenues from speed cameras into police traffic activities. The roads would be a lot safer now if they had.

But it does mean that you would have to be very unlucky or just stupid to be stopped by a traffic patrol car. You can travel 100s of miles without seeing one nowadays.

I use my HID lights, which are the later more powerful 50 watt bulbs, in semi-automatic levelling mode, using the height adjuster to lower the beam in town and in traffic and raise it on the open road. The cut-off passes the MOT anti dazzle beam height test when on the highest setting.

There are traffic police out there, although never enough, and it is there primary role to deal with roads policing matters, as well as anything else that a constable may be called to deal with, i won't lie and will say that if i spot a car with HID's that are non standard, the vast majority are pretty easy to spot, it does make me take a closer look at the car...

A few of the people on here have met me, and know i am pretty normal and i like to treat everyone i come in contact with in a fair manner, but just remember that one of the traffic officers primary role is that of keeping the roads safe for all road users, so some of these conversions do cause dazzle, which can be a contributary factor in a collision, particularly involving a solo, or a pedestrian who can't see for the glare.

(i'm not tarnishing all users with the same brush, thats not a thing i do either)

[IanW]

surely they should fail hids that dazzal and not all hids that dont self level, at the mo they can fail lights that are too high so i cant see why they cant do the same

Ian im not being checky but what trainning does a trafic cop get on car mot stuff?

I can't comment for all area's but the officers trained in prohibition, have to take several courses, one of which is 3 weeks long in its own right, as they are basically conducting a roadside MOT, they normally carry a copy of the latest VOSA handbook (book is not the right word really) of rules and regulations.

[v6 steve]

but do they get trained by VOSA same as the mot tester's

[IanW]

but do they get trained by VOSA same as the mot tester's

I assume so, or one of our VOSA qualified instructors i would imagine, i haven't done the course so can't tell you.