Track rod ends and wishbones - pairs?

[MadOnVaux!]

Anyone else any thoughts please??

[MadOnVaux!]

Anyone???

I know the subject has moved on from the original thread title but i was hoping not to start another thread thats all

[Fraz]

worn rack, track road ends, top strut mounts, top bearings, ball joints, lower arm bushes, tracking, worn wheel bearings, sub frame blots not tight, front hub nuts not tight, wheels bolts not tight, fauty tyre (wearing on one edge or got flat spot) inccorect tyre pressures

then your on to things like a crack in the firewall at the rack mountings, bent shock or hub or a warped disc even

could you borrow another set of wheels and tyres?? if so try that first see if it help ..if you then you can write off a few thngs if its still the same

[MadOnVaux!]

worn rack, track road ends, top strut mounts, top bearings, ball joints, lower arm bushes, tracking, worn wheel bearings, sub frame blots not tight, front hub nuts not tight, wheels bolts not tight, fauty tyre (wearing on one edge or got flat spot) inccorect tyre pressures

then your on to things like a crack in the firewall at the rack mountings, bent shock or hub or a warped disc even

could you borrow another set of wheels and tyres?? if so try that first see if it help ..if you then you can write off a few thngs if its still the same

Cheers Fraz,

Well my garage have had it on the MOT ramp shaker thing and they say nothing at all is moving up front, rack is fine, had new wishbones and track rods....top mounts and bearings changed 3 years ago so should be ok....they re-torqued/tightened subframe, wheels nuts and hub nuts all ok, tyre pressures and tyres ok.

No crack in firewall i shouldnt think as garage would have spotted that, i dont think it'll be a bent shock as ive not hit anything since shocks were all replaced......disks not warped as there is no or minimal shaking through wheel when braking.

and also ive had full 4 wheel geometry check and adjust with printout.

This is what's making me think it is something at the rear, like a trailing arm bush or bushes as they are the only thing that hasnt been replaced at the rear, well apart from the springs but as far as i can see they are intact, but quite rusty and shocks appear ok too, no signs of leakage.

[MadOnVaux!]

OK, so the car has just been into garage to have cambelt noise looked at (See my other thread) and i aksed them to check the back end suspension etc, in particular the trailing arm bushes.

and they basically did an MOT check on the rear components, had a good prod around, put it on the shaker plates and they said there was no aparent movement to anything so i'm at abit of a loss really, something is causing this wolly handling but nowt is showing up.

They did say the NSR wheel bearing was very slightly worn, but surely that wouldnt cause this problem?

[Fraz]

I would still try another set of wheels ...cant do any harm and would then take them right out of any problems

[MadOnVaux!]

What makes you think it could be the wheels though?

[Fraz]

the long list of things you have checked and replaced ...wheels and tyres are things that can cause many problems, if you can get a set or even two, simply swapping them can then eliminate them from any future investigation ...after all the are bolted right onto the hub and transmit everything right through the car

[MadOnVaux!]

I appreciate your advice, but if the wheels and tyres are straight and true, how can they affect how the car handles?

[Fraz]

and how do you know they are ...have had brand new cars with problems that have went way as soon as the wheels got swapped over with another set, tyres made incorrectly with a flat spot (hard to see with the eye) or a bit too much rubber on one part ..wheels with a worn centre that throws the wheel slightly off ..even on a tracking machine it will not show every problem as they do not spin as fast as you driving

[MadOnVaux!]

Any other suggestions, anyone?

[Fraz]

Plus i found out my wheel spacers were warped and causing my wheels to rotate in a very strange way, so hence when they tracked it, it will have given a false reading....and as i dont need the spacers any more due to having bigger front discs and as such the wheels dont catch on the calipers, i am taking the spacers off.

This Calibra has been an utter ball ache ever since i bought it, but i still love it lol....even though i STILL have the rear knocking!!!! AAARGH!

so did you get new tyres after this ..if your wheels did rotated in a "very stange way" wont the tyres have also worn in a stange way ?

[MadOnVaux!]

I didnt get new tyres after it no, but the wheels have been balanced and the tyre isnt out of shape or worn oddly.

It's not a wheel and tyre issue though i dont think as that would be shaking/vibration or similar wouldnt it?

This is a 'loose' feeling like something is worn somewhere.

It's only really been like this i suppose since the track rod ends and wisbones were done, which i thought maybe one of which could have been faulty or maybe they hadn't put the metal collars in the wishbone rear bushes, but if nothing is moving around or loose when they are moving/inspecting it, they cant be at fault.

[MadOnVaux!]

Could a front spring cause this feeling if it was broken at the very top? and could that be missed when inspecting it like the garage has been? as if it will only show anything up while under load??

If so, that would also account for the random banging i get from the n/s/f area, which again my garage can find no sign of anything wrong!!

What about top mounts or top mount bearings, would any issue with those show up under inspection and/or MOT conditions??

[MadOnVaux!]

Yeah i get that heavy knock/clunk occasionally when turning full lock or nearly full, also sometimes randomly when driving on twisty B roads and lanes etc.